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Hallo, ich hoffe, dass bis Ende 1952 mein RT200 Wiederaufbau innerhalb der nächsten Monate und möchte eine Zeitschrift schreiben Artikel über das Fahrrad.

Ich brauche aber einige Informationen über die Geschichte der DKW-Fabrik. Ich habe genügend Informationen über die Zschopau Zeit, aber ich möchte so viel Informationen wie kann ich über den Umzug von Zschopau nach Ingolstadt. Die Gründe, wie es geschehen ist, warum es passiert ist, wer die Entscheidung, woher das Geld kommen, die im Westen sowjetischen Einfluss?

Ich möchte malen ein genaues Bild von der Politik der Zeit.

Es gibt nur sehr wenige Informationen verfügbar auf Englisch Web-Sites. Aber wenn einer von euch wissen, der mit genauen Informationen in den Sprachen Deutsch, dann wenden Sie sich bitte könnten Sie mir Links und ich kann diese Seiten zu übersetzen.

Vielen Dank
Phil

Hi, I hope to finish my 1952 RT200 rebuild within the next month and would like to write a magazine article about the bike.

However, I need some information about the history of the DKW factory. I have enough information about the Zschopau period, but I would like as much information as I can get about the move from Zschopau to Ingolstadt. The reasons, how it happened, why it happened, who made the decision, where did the money come from, the soviet v west influence?

I would like to paint an accurate picture of the politics of the time.

There is very little information available on English web sites. However, if any of you know of site with accurate information in German, then please could you let me have links and I can translate those pages.

Thanks
Phil

It was not a move to Ingolstadt but to Russia...Zschopau factory was disassembled by the Soviets as part of reparations.
The brand "Auto Union" (included DKW) was deleted from Chemnitz register in 1948.
The Auto Union was refounded in Ingolstadt with money from Marshal plan and also from the Bavarian government in 1949.
See:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_Union


Regards
Lothar

hi phil!
even if i think you allready know it:
on wikipedia you will also find some information in english. unfortunately not as much as on the german page, but well... at least a bit.
if you need help with the translation of the german page just ask.

adlermb200 hat geschrieben:Hallo, ich hoffe, dass bis Ende 1952 mein RT200 Wiederaufbau innerhalb der nächsten Monate und möchte eine Zeitschrift schreiben Artikel über das Fahrrad.

Hello Phil,
sorry, but "Fahrrad" means "bicycle" in your language... the word you meant was "Motorrad" (motorcycle). Your (automatic?) translator misled you...
Best regards,
Martin!

lothar hat geschrieben:It was not a move to Ingolstadt but to Russia...Zschopau factory was disassembled by the Soviets as part of reparations.
The brand "Auto Union" (included DKW) was deleted from Chemnitz register in 1948.
The Auto Union was refounded in Ingolstadt with money from Marshal plan and also from the Bavarian government in 1949.
See:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_Union


Regards
Lothar

Thanks Lothar, I knew the factory machinery was moved to Russia before they returned it again to allow IFA to start again.

I have found the information about the Chemnitz register now and I think I have enough information for the magazine article now.

Martin H. hat geschrieben:

adlermb200 hat geschrieben:Hallo, ich hoffe, dass bis Ende 1952 mein RT200 Wiederaufbau innerhalb der nächsten Monate und möchte eine Zeitschrift schreiben Artikel über das Fahrrad.

Hello Phil,
sorry, but "Fahrrad" means "bicycle" in your language... the word you meant was "Motorrad" (motorcycle). Your (automatic?) translator misled you...
Best regards,
Martin!

Thanks Martin, in the UK the word "bike" can be used for both bicycles or motorcycles. I must remember that on here.

when finished please let us read the article

ETZChris hat geschrieben:when finished please let us read the article

I will. But I must finish the motorcycle rebuild first.

okay...when will you be ready with the rebuild???

ETZChris hat geschrieben:okay...when will you be ready with the rebuild???

Maybe 1 month to finish and get the motorcycle running and pass its MOT (same as your TUV). Then I have to get it registered which will take at least another month, minimum.

do you have all documents for the bike for the registration? or is this no problem in UK, like in germany.

ETZChris hat geschrieben:do you have all documents for the bike for the registration? or is this no problem in UK, like in germany.

No, I don't have any documents.

First I need to insure the motorcycle, using the frame and engine number.
Then I have to get the bike through the MOT test, using the frame and engine number.

Then I need a dating cetificate with the frame and engine number on it. The Vintage Motorcycle Club should be able to help me with this and I am waiting for a reply from them.

Once I have the certificate stating that the motorcycle was made in 1952, I can apply for a registration number at the Driver & Vehicle Licencing Agency office. They will charge me £50 and should then issue me with a new registration document (V5C) which will give the motorcycle a new registration number (age related number for 1952) for the rest of its life in the UK.

the same damn procedure like in germany. with a lot of costs, right!?

good luck...

ETZChris hat geschrieben:the same damn procedure like in germany. with a lot of costs, right!?

good luck...

Thanks. You have reminded me that I have heard nothing at all from the VMCC and it has been almost 4 weeks. I shall e mail their DKW expert again and see if he can speed them up.

Hi Phil,

you should check out this book:

Rauch, Siegfried: "DKW. Die Geschichte einer Weltmarke." Stuttgart: Motorbuchverlag, 1988. ISBN: 3-87943-759-9

This book covers the whole era of DKW, from the beginnings in the Zschopau valley to its sad ending in Nuremberg. It is not only a history of the motorcycle manufacturing of the company but of autombile production as well. It also highlights the personalities and actions of Dr. Hahn und Dr. Bruhns, and should give you some idea of how DKW production was reestablished in Ingolstadt and Dusseldorf.

Regards,
Steffen