Discbrake on my TS250/0

[Lasse]

Hi!

I am going to be putting on a discbrake on my TS250/0. I've bought a 16" frontwheel, and complete front-end from an ETZ. Now I thought it would be simple.

But then I saw this.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26216&start=50

Now my german is not that strong, but it got me thinking, do I need to fabricate something? Or is it a straight swap?

Regards,
Lasse

[Ralle]

I've bought a 16" frontwheel, and complete front-end from an ETZ.

2 questions: What is "complete frontend", the telescopic fork including upper and lower clamping head? The 16" frontweel was mounted into this telescopic fork with disk before you bought?

[guzzimk]

Hi!

I am going to be putting on a discbrake on my TS250/0. I've bought a 16" frontwheel, and complete front-end from an ETZ. Now I thought it would be simple.

But then I saw this.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26216&start=50

Now my german is not that strong, but it got me thinking, do I need to fabricate something? Or is it a straight swap?

Regards,
Lasse

Hi Lasse,

please contact our member "trabimotorrad" (Achim), he does know how to do that !

Greetings

Markus

[trabimotorrad]

Hi Lasse!
When you will montain a disc-break in a TS250/0, you have to change the 32mm fork into a 35mm one.
Then you can build in a 18" ETZ-front-wheel with disc brake. QWhen you hafe allready a 16"wheel with disc-brake, build in the wheel, the 3,5mm which MZ orded to put away from center, aren`t neccessarry.
I´ve don myself with a 18" front whell and driven for a long time, without any Problems.

-- Hinzugefügt: Mi Apr 28, 2010 11:52 --

Edith says: A ETZ-fork has its own problem: There ist a "nose" on the TS250-frame, where the ID-Number ist printed and which is neccessary for closing the bike. The ETZ fork will not fit. You mus take a TS-35mm-fork!!

[Lasse]

Hi Lasse!
When you will montain a disc-break in a TS250/0, you have to change the 32mm fork into a 35mm one.
Then you can build in a 18" ETZ-front-wheel with disc brake. QWhen you hafe allready a 16"wheel with disc-brake, build in the wheel, the 3,5mm which MZ orded to put away from center, aren`t neccessarry.
I´ve don myself with a 18" front whell and driven for a long time, without any Problems.

-- Hinzugefügt: Mi Apr 28, 2010 11:52 --

Edith says: A ETZ-fork has its own problem: There ist a "nose" on the TS250-frame, where the ID-Number ist printed and which is neccessary for closing the bike. The ETZ fork will not fit. You mus take a TS-35mm-fork!!

The tripletrees won't fit? I don't need to be able to see the ID number.

By complete front-end I mean tripletrees, wheel, axle, stanchions and lowerlegs. The wheel and fork hasn't been mounted together before.

[Marco]

To solve the problem with the nose ther are 3 different ways:
1st
Go to your TÜV ingeneur (don't know how to say in another way) tell him the problem and ask him wheather it's possible to cut the nose and replace the ID on another place
2nd
Take a dremel or another tool an start to cut the nose. But don't cut to much. Cut so much that the ID is still viewable.
3rd
Mark the place where the lamp and the nose meet each other.
Take the lamp off. Take a small hammer and hammer on the small place where the nose an the lamp meet each other.

[Ralle]

...& 4th way is to get trippletrees (is it the same i named clamping head ) from TS250/1, this could be te best way

[Lasse]

Where can I find pictures of this "nose"? I can't imagine what it is.

It doesn't matter if the ID is viewable, I have registered the bike and don't need to do so again, according to the rules of Denmark

-- Hinzugefügt: 28. April 2010 14:25 --

...& 4th way is to get trippletrees (is it the same i named clamping head ) from TS250/1, this could be te best way

I think triple tree is the american expression

[MaxNice]

...& 4th way is to get trippletrees (is it the same i named clamping head ) from TS250/1, this could be te best way

did so this week

[Ralle]

"The nose" is the pice of frame, where the lock is get in if you are locking the bike.

@MaxNice: Bleibt die Funktion des Lenkerschloßes eigentlich mit den TS/1 Gabelbrücken erhalten oder nicht?

[Lasse]

"The nose" is the pice of frame, where the lock ist get in if you are locking the bike.

@MaxNice: Bleibt die Funktion des Lenkerschloßes eigentlich mit den TS/1 Gabelbrücken erhalten oder nicht?

So if I don't have the lock it would be no problem at all with the ETZ clamps?

[Ralle]

It only works with ETZ clamps if you cut of the nose from frame or use 3rd idea from mueboe

[Marco]

I used the 2nd method and the TÜV ingeneur was delighted with.

[Lasse]

I will be using an ETZ headlight, will that change anything?

[Marco]

Oh yes, if you take the ETZ headlight id should fit.
But i can't promise.

[MaxNice]

"The nose" is the pice of frame, where the lock is get in if you are locking the bike.

@MaxNice: Bleibt die Funktion des Lenkerschloßes eigentlich mit den TS/1 Gabelbrücken erhalten oder nicht?

natürlich bleibt sie das, ich habe beide brückenpaare zur auswahl gehabt und aufgrund des lenkerschlosses hab ich die TS/1 brücken genommen. der prüfer war mit dem schloss auch zufrieden und wollte kein extra mitgeführtes.

[Lasse]

"The nose" is the pice of frame, where the lock is get in if you are locking the bike.

@MaxNice: Bleibt die Funktion des Lenkerschloßes eigentlich mit den TS/1 Gabelbrücken erhalten oder nicht?

natürlich bleibt sie das, ich habe beide brückenpaare zur auswahl gehabt und aufgrund des lenkerschlosses hab ich die TS/1 brücken genommen. der prüfer war mit dem schloss auch zufrieden und wollte kein extra mitgeführtes.

Also du verwenden nur die TS250/1 brücke weil das lenkerschloss fungieren muss?

[MaxNice]

yes, thats why I use the TS/1 triple trees. you'll have another vantage if you use it too, because of your headlight. my is a ETZ type with welded TS mountings, so it might be used on both triple tree types, but i decided for TS/1 triple trees.
do it your way, it will be fine, if you have ETZ triple trees, use them and lock your bike with an external lock.

[etzremo]

Son Mist,ich kann kein englisch!
Gruß etzremo

[Lasse]

yes, thats why I use the TS/1 triple trees. you'll have another vantage if you use it too, because of your headlight. my is a ETZ type with welded TS mountings, so it might be used on both triple tree types, but i decided for TS/1 triple trees.
do it your way, it will be fine, if you have ETZ triple trees, use them and lock your bike with an external lock.

An answer as clear as daylight, thank you!

[MaxNice]

Son Mist,ich kann kein englisch!
Gruß etzremo

ironie oder doch erklärungsbedarf?
"ja das ist der grund, warum ich die TS/1 brücken benutze. du hast noch einen weiteren vorteil, wegen deiner lampe. meine ist eine von der ETZ wit angeschweißten TS befestigungen, man könnte man sie an beiden brückentypen TS als auch ETZ befestigen. dennoch entschied ich mich für die TS/1 brücken.
bau es wie du denkst, es wird gut werden. wenn du ETZ brücken hast dann benutze sie und sichere dein motorrad mit einem lose mitgeführtem schloss (kettenschloss, etc)"

[Lasse]

Kann ich meine TS250/0 Lampenhaltern an die ETZ Brücke verwenden?

[Marco]

Das sollte gehen.
MZ schreibt bei Verwendung der ETZ Klemmköpfe aber das Kürzen der Lampendreiecke um jeweils 1 cm vor.

[Lasse]

Das sollte gehen.
MZ schreibt bei Verwendung der ETZ Klemmköpfe aber das Kürzen der Lampendreiecke um jeweils 1 cm vor.

Will ein ETZ Scheinwerfer benutzen, will nur das Lampenhalter haben fürs Puig Scheibe haben.

[MaxNice]

Kann ich meine TS250/0 Lampenhaltern an die ETZ Brücke verwenden?

da wäre ich mir nicht so sicher, die standrohre sind ja dicker, wenn da noch 3mm platz sind gehts bestimmt.